Jun 30, 2005, 10:03 PM // 22:03
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]
Profession: P/
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I'm surprised nobody has pointed out how awesome this skill could be in an organized PvP group. Ever thought, "Oh man, those two elite skills together would be just broken awsome"? With this it's possible. You just have to work with it.
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Jun 30, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58
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Krytan Explorer
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Yeah its good, but it costs a lot of energy and has a large cooldown. Also it only lasts for 20 seconds. This means thats its not so suitable for continually used spells (hundred blades + IW) because it just dosen't last long enough but the high energy cost also means it dosen't work so well with one hit wonder spells. Perhaps in conjunction with Elementalist primary with a lot of energy storage...you'd be able to chain together a couple of good elites.
...otherwise...I haven't heard of any major abuses of this skill. You'd be better off taking something good from your own set.
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Jun 30, 2005, 11:37 PM // 23:37
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#4
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Guest
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the skill is downright abusive, you just need to find 2 elites that werent meant to be put together(say...something like a broken energy management skill and a skill that causes you to lose alot of energy for doing something)
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Jul 06, 2005, 07:41 AM // 07:41
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA / Newport News, VA
Profession: N/W
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The only problem I see is you don't have the points in whatever skilltree you manage to steal the elite from, so it will probably be a pretty crappy result, yes?
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Jul 06, 2005, 12:05 PM // 12:05
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#6
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Jungle Guide
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true, but two mesmers could get together and figure something neat out..
and if their primaries/builds are similiar..
now the below would take even more planning/skill but..
with your elite being echo I guess you could still do 2 (although 2 for limited time) on top of the echo or
using arcane echo over elite echo you could have your elite, cast arcane echo, cast this nab 1, cast echod nab another
mind you once again your getting limited duration but.. if your serious about above echo probably would be the choice, and with 3 mesmers only one would need it as the other 2 could share?
heh be something to try
As a e/me I don't have a good option to use the fast casting recovery, but I imagine a mesmer with that as one of their elites even makes the nabbing of an extra elite and use of echos/their grabs even more powerful..
Last edited by CKaz; Jul 06, 2005 at 12:07 PM // 12:07..
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Jul 07, 2005, 07:15 AM // 07:15
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#7
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Banned
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This is also useful on spirit spam team. One teamate can have Greater Conflag and any other ranger/mes can copy it.
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Aug 20, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: nova
Profession: Me/E
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A good Dual Mesmer combo for this is Signet of Midnight and Fevered Dreams
Cause Blindness to spread everywhere.
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Sep 24, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17
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#9
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Ascalonian Squire
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Why not just Epidemic?
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Sep 24, 2005, 10:41 AM // 10:41
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Select Few [SF]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Team of 6 monks with SpellBreaker and Arcane mimickry, a Necro/Ranger with Aura of Lich and Quickening zypher, a Monk/Ranger with LifeBarrier Blessed Signet and quickening zypher to back up the first ranger.
The Monk ranger throws life barrier on the first 6 monks, QZ is kept up, the 6 monks jump in a chokepoint on the map to prevent anyoen from going after the spirits, Every 30 seconds they aracane mimickry the aura of lich from the necro/ranger and every 22 seconds cast spellbreaker on self. a staff with +20% enchant diration + blessed aura will make a constant 24/7 spellbreaker effect while having aura of lich and life barrier on all 6 monks.
Life Barrier + Aura of lich = 100% dmg reduced from all damage sources, you are now effectively immune to everything except energy degen and health degen.
Spellbreaker 24/7 means your immune to health degen + energy degen, and you can get your combo stripped from you no matter what.
This leaves room for roughly 3 skills on each of the 6 monks after all the skills so far added up. Fragility, a HP Degen Hex, and a condition Causing hex on each of the 6 monks would give you a perfect team that is made great from careful use of Arcane Mimickry.
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Sep 24, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27
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Wilds Pathfinder
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LB+AotL doesn't = 0 damage from all sources. For one thing, if a Warrior combo needs 5 hits to kill you in normal builds, it will still kill you in five hits if you have on AotL. Yes, the damage is halved, but your max life is halved too! The damage percentage as it relates to your health bar is the same.
Also, re-read the descrip for Life Barrier. Even though it reduces damage by 52% at L16, that is a 52% reduction from your current max health, not the original amount you had before AotL was put on. So if a combo does 100 points damage, under AotL it does 50 points. but you're halfway to 0 life already so the actual effect breaks even. Life Barrier will take that 50 points and drop it further, but it will never get you to 0 damage taken.
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Jan 08, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12
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#12
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asian in Lousiana
Guild: The Endbringers
Profession: R/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lynxxClan
Team of 6 monks with SpellBreaker and Arcane mimickry, a Necro/Ranger with Aura of Lich and Quickening zypher, a Monk/Ranger with LifeBarrier Blessed Signet and quickening zypher to back up the first ranger.
The Monk ranger throws life barrier on the first 6 monks, QZ is kept up, the 6 monks jump in a chokepoint on the map to prevent anyoen from going after the spirits, Every 30 seconds they aracane mimickry the aura of lich from the necro/ranger and every 22 seconds cast spellbreaker on self. a staff with +20% enchant diration + blessed aura will make a constant 24/7 spellbreaker effect while having aura of lich and life barrier on all 6 monks.
Life Barrier + Aura of lich = 100% dmg reduced from all damage sources, you are now effectively immune to everything except energy degen and health degen.
Spellbreaker 24/7 means your immune to health degen + energy degen, and you can get your combo stripped from you no matter what.
This leaves room for roughly 3 skills on each of the 6 monks after all the skills so far added up. Fragility, a HP Degen Hex, and a condition Causing hex on each of the 6 monks would give you a perfect team that is made great from careful use of Arcane Mimickry.
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Sorry to say but chilblains makes your whole thing useless.
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Jan 09, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: IA
Guild: Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]
Profession: R/Me
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An alternate use for this (on the right teams) is as a blend of Echo and Arcane Echo. It can copy skills (if they are elite), but is not elite itself. So if an Ele team wanted to spam Glyph of Energy with some skill (say Obsidian Flame), they could use this to copy a teammate's Glyph, giving them 2 in their bar. Echo is elite so it won't work, and Arcane Echo wonly copies spells. This would let you add3-4 more Obsidian Flmes that don't cause exhaustion into a 20 second span.
Unfortunately, it has a much longer recharge than the echoes,so you'd be limited in how frequently you could do this.
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Mar 01, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27
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Draconic Rage Incarnate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Iowa
Guild: Alphahive
Profession: R/A
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I found an interesting combination with this and my R/Me the other night - Arcane Mimicry combined with Oath Shot and a group of rangers using different ranger elites is a lot of fun. I was barraging, then using incendiary arrows, then I had escape, then spike trap... it was awesome.
Once you have played with the group for a little while, you know who has what elite, and can pick and choose. I did it in a PUG, but imagine what you could do with a little planning.
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Mar 02, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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An IW mesmer using Arcane Mimicry to get Hundred Blades... 84 dmg per hit ftw!
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Mar 02, 2006, 04:37 AM // 04:37
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beaverton/OR
Guild: Disciples of Birkler [BIR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
Sorry to say but chilblains makes your whole thing useless.
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For every build, there is a counter. Nothing new.
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Mar 02, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA
Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO]
Profession: W/
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2 eviscerates is a decent use for this skill.
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Mar 02, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Asia
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i am looking into this skill recently too
was intended to make a build for it.... but i gave up
until i see it got 60 sec cooldown
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Dec 25, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Netherlands, The
Guild: Bambis Dont Say [Meow]
Profession: Me/
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If another ele in your team has Elemental Attunement you can use this together with Searing Flames, even though it only stays for 20 seconds the Attunement stays on you for the full duration
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